Debate the State
However, I perhaps think that the key (or maybe just more interesting) issue is Don's post called "The Real Social Contract". The crux of the Objectivist argument seems to be captured here--libertarian anarchists think the real victim of crime is not the actual victim, but society in itself. Seems a little collectivistic for my blood.
Of course, Don is wrong in saying that criminals represent a general threat to society as a whole. People who beat their family members or kill competing black market operators generally not a threat to society as a whole. They are a threat to friends, family, and black market operaters--but not to society in general.
But to address Don's point more square on the way he was trying to argue it, it is not totally clear that he has made his point. He writes:
Why? Quoting Ayn Rand, "If men are to live together in a peaceful, productive,
rational society and deal with one another to mutual benefit, they must accept the basic
social principle without which no moral or civilized society is possible: the principle of
individual rights" (The Virtue of Selfishness, 126).
The key phrase there is "basic social principle." A criminal does not merely harm his
individual victims -- by his actions he rejects the principle that makes a moral society
possible. He therefore becomes a threat to that society as a whole. If you want to be part of
society, you must accept the principle of individual rights.
Clearly there are people who violate this "basic social principle", and a criminal does reject this principle by his very actions. As an aside, it seems strange to think that the esence of the criminal's wrong, or what makes it significant is that he rejected the wrong principle. However, just because they reject this principle does not mean that there is an automatic right for society to lock them up, beat them up, kill them, or whatever. Another response may be more appropriate, or perhaps one over the other. Actually, restitution seems most appropriate.
The possibility that we could violate this basic social principle in response to a crime is totally ignored. It is almost as if because they have committed a crime they are beyond the pale and their own rights are not worth respect. The basic principle seems to be revenge. You have violated our rights, we will violate yours. Nevermind the principle that it is bad to violate others rights. I mean that is the basic principle: Do not violate rights. It is not clear that "he did it to me first" is a really great justification.
I also can't help thinking of the Nietzsche's point that usually we call the people we fear "bad". The convergence of fear and hate and the moral outrage that usually accompanies these issues (criminal justice) seems uncomfortable, and the strong emotions of fear and hate seem strongly connected to the philosophy of criminal justice.
